E.G. vs. I.E...and etc.

DJ Shadow at the FIllmore last night was dope. I went with my homie who owns/runs a studio in the East Bay...he's in the midst of recording a mind-blowing hip-hop album with live instrumentation right now and while I can't give details, I can tell you that this lil' pilgrim's gonna be in the house when Ghostface, KRS-1, DJ Q-Bert and Carlos Santana are coming in to record tracks. My toungue still has asphalt sprinkles from having fallen on the ground upon learning this. Carry on. Here's a grammar tip that I found useful today...

When you mean “for example,” use e.g. It is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase exempli gratia. When you mean “that is,” use “i.e.” It is an abbreviation for the Latin phrase id est. Either can be used to clarify a preceding statement, the first by example, the second by restating the idea more clearly or expanding upon it. Because these uses are so similar, the two abbreviations are easily confused. If you just stick with good old English “for example” and “that is” you won’t give anyone a chance to sneer at you. If you insist on using the abbreviation, perhaps “example given” will remind you to use “e.g.,” while “in effect” suggests “I.E.”

Since e.g. indicates a partial list, it is redundant to add “etc.” at the end of a list introduced by this abbreviation.